Ask the CMO: Xerox’s Toni Clayton-Hine On Marketing As The Driver Of Brand Reinvention

We are in a period of transformation we haven’t seen since the days of the Industrial Revolution. Once untouchable market incumbents have fallen. Small and agile start-ups have come out of nowhere to reimagine industries. Digital has gone from a mere channel to a necessary and vital component of reimagining business. Within this sea change, the role in the C-Suite that has perhaps been impacted most is that of the CMO.

Faced with an increasing amount of responsibility and accountability for the long-term growth of a company’s brand and performance, it has perhaps never been a more challenging time to be a marketer. With that in mind, I have launched an “Ask the CMO” feature where I speak with some of the top marketers in the world to uncover the leading issues and trends driving change in the marketplace.

For my latest piece in this series, I had the pleasure of speaking with Toni Clayton-Hine, CMO of Xerox and marketing veteran who has overseen the recent transformation of Xerox and its Set the Page Free campaign. The platform is a great example of using marketing as a major driver of brand reinvention. Its core objective is not to focus on the brand’s legacy connected with hardware and paper products, but to instead highlight the ways Xerox can serve clients who need assistance in straddling the real-life and virtual realms, while advancing innovations imperative to the future of work. The project brings together fourteen world-renowned creative talents including authors, poets and songwriters to collaborate on a book about the modern workplace.

 We discussed the creation and execution of this campaign, along with her key thoughts on the need for marketing to drive agile transformation in today’s rapidly changing world. The following is a recap of our conversation:

Billee: I’m excited to have a conversation with you related to the transformation I’ve seen going on at Xerox, particularly the whole Set the Page Free idea. So, why don’t we open up with your thoughts on the changing landscape?

Toni: I’m sure you see different definitions of what makes a great CMO and what makes a great marketing function, depending on the company, where it is and where it’s going. I can speak specifically to where Xerox is today and our unique position. We’ve got this iconic brand, with such a deep history, but one of the things that we have to deal with is not the awareness of Xerox as a company, but awareness of Xerox in terms of what we stand for today.  My role is to create awareness and consideration around our current portfolio, with the changing set of people that are buying, selling or influencing our technology every day, and then making sure that that brand is connected not just at that broad awareness level but also down into the field.

I think that’s one thing that’s probably common in terms of the conversations that you are having with other CMOs. The need to make sure that the components of marketing are connected and creating a more holistic view from brand awareness, to offering consideration, down to actually closing the transaction in demand generation as opposed to running those activities in silos.

Billee: I think that that’s exactly right. Generally, everyone is on the same page, but when you get inside of different organizations, there’s a lot of nuance. I know you’ve been doing a lot of great things to instigate change. Do you want to talk about anything you’ve been working on that’s emblematic of making necessary shifts and best practices for being responsive to the market?

Toni: When I took over my role in January, the way that Xerox had been run was we had this really large very diverse portfolio, and we ran a brand office that was almost separate from the performance you mentioned. I saw an opportunity to bring those things together. So that’s been a lot of the change that I am trying to drive, which is making sure that we operationalize all the handoffs and the connection points from the brand down into the field, and ensure that that drives performance.

One example is “The Set the Page Free” campaign which we believe is a unique and creative way to show how people are using and leveraging the technology in an interesting and unique way. It’s 100 percent digital, which we did that on purpose in order to use the campaign as an overarching umbrella that will ultimately drive awareness, consideration, and ultimately demand.

Every choice we’ve made in terms of bringing this campaign to life has included some sort of digital signature so that we can then leverage it downstream, albeit sometimes very far downstream, into a potential lead.

Billee: I appreciate you sharing that as it’s certainly a really great example of how to make some of the necessary shifts that are required today to connect brand directly to performance. A question that I have for you relates to how many brands are trying to identify how their brand purpose can be a mechanism driving strategy and ultimately optimizing the experience. Was that a factor in your vision when you thought about making changes?

Toni: Our purpose has always been to innovate the way the world communicates and connects and works. And, because we have that overarching promise, we can view today’s technology and tomorrow’s workplace as the lens by which we can deliver on that goal.

The one thing that helps us with this is the research centers at Xerox. Our scientists at places like PARC, the Palo Alto Research Center, understand how people work. They watch people in the workplace and how they’re interacting with technology, as opposed to starting with a problem and then asking a customer or a user what problems do you have that we can solve? They start with observation. And when you have access to that information you start to see the different ways you could solve that problem. That helps make my job easier.

Billee: Right. A lot of what I’ve been talking about that’s connected to what you just said is the big switch from rational engagement and talking about the WHAT, to emotional engagement and talking about the WHY and the WHO. I would think that what you just said would make capturing emotional engagement a bit easier since it’s informed and tuned in to a specific problem that already exists. Is that, right?

Toni: That’s absolutely right. I like how you said that. I guess I’ve always looked at it as kind of experiential, meaning moving from delivering a great product to delivering a great experience. And we’re very lucky in some respects that the B2B space follows the B2C space. So, I know the experience that’s being developed and what you’re expecting in that space from Amazon or from an Airbnb will ultimately be what’s expected in B2B. So, I use B2C as a bit of a crystal ball. When we are going to design a web journey, I know what a consumer is looking for when they go out and buy some sort of consumer based package. Good. OK. Now, what’s that going to mean in my enterprise environment?

Billee: So, in essence you know that it doesn’t matter who you’re trying to connect with, everybody today is a customer. How does your observation about the need to deliver a great experience translate in the B2E-space, with your internal customer? We know culture starts at home and that it is becoming a much more visible responsibility for marketers. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Toni: We have been working very closely with our H.R. colleagues to refine the Xerox culture, take the best elements, and update it to reflect who we are as a company today. We’re definitely spending more energy trying to create that connection to make sure our employees are advocating and articulating our brand value proposition as part of our culture work.

Billee: At the end of the day, I think that what I’m hearing is that beside the fact that there’s general consensus that employees need to be treated as customers, is this idea that because personal and professional lives intersect so much today, employees want to feel that they’re doing something with a grander purpose, as opposed to just ‘selling stuff.” This makes organizations start to think about creating a campaign approach for them as well. Is that something you might consider as you continue to evolve your brand reinvention?

Toni: One of the things we brought forward in the Set the Page Free campaign was a tie to global literacy through a relationship with the 92nd Street Y and a donation to World Reader. One of the reasons we wanted to do this is because (when you think about our employees and how they are engaging with the world), the societal and philanthropic impact becomes very important to our culture and engages our employees.

Billee: That’s something I’m seeing and hearing as well, and I think, in my humble opinion, that it has to do what’s going on in the world. We see the need for businesses to play a grander role in moral leadership, and a sense of responsibility that extends beyond the bottom line. Do you think that trend will continue?

Toni: I would say that there’s probably a little bit of a pendulum shifting back.

But I think that it will it will continue to be part of a company’s vernacular for a long time. I don’t think we’re going to go back to something where it’s only about the product and what the product does for you. People have shifted their priorities to doing business with companies that do good or at least have an awareness of their social impact. And I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

Billee: That emotional belief is a uniting idea that everyone I speak to stands behind. Another area that I have spoken about with many of your peers, is the idea of moving storytelling from vehicle of awareness at the end of the supply chain, to a vital business competency at the beginning of the invention process. This has become an increasingly important idea in the age of experience where brand purpose needs to be pulled into all customer touch points through stories that create interactions as opposed to transactions.   What are your thoughts?

Toni: It’s a pretty natural thing for us. We make sure that we’ve got purpose-driven content that goes through the entire buyer’s journey. And I talk a lot about making sure that we’ve got the content that translates emotional response into action.

We also look at how we parse content between people who are selling our products, whether they’re our employees or our channel partners versus, those who are buying our products, which in our instance is the CIO/CFO, and those who are actually using our products for their business.  So, for me it’s constantly looking at a cube view, and making sure that we’ve got an asset and a story around those different personas. We need to be sure that we’ve got the right content along those lines be able to drive somebody down their road. Today, everything related to brand, needs to be connected emotionally to an experience to drive performance. It’s that simple.

 Note: This article was first published on Billee’s Forbes blog

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